Why is Zhuge Liang s Longzhong Pair wrong, which doomed Liu Bei s final downfall?

Updated on history 2024-06-03
18 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-11

    The first half of Longzhong's content is a forward-looking analysis of the current situation, pointing out the contrast of power between the various forces, but he has a serious strategic mistake in his idea of Jingzhou. Jingzhou is extremely important to both Eastern Wu and Liu Bei, so the two families will definitely not be able to avoid a major war after that, so the matter of jointly resisting Cao will never become a reality.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-10

    Longzhong is a three-step strategy, the first step is to occupy Jingzhou with its own place, the second part is to attack Yizhou with Jingzhou as a starting point, and the third step is to unite Sun Quan is to go out of Yizhou to take the world. But except for the arrogant Guan Yu, no one in Shu could guard Jingzhou.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-09

    Longzhong said to the second half of the sentence that Liu Bang took Yizhou as the foundation and then successfully conquered the world, but in fact, this is not the case, Liu Bang only stayed in Hanzhong for half a year to rest the army, so it is impossible for Liu Bei to copy Liu Bang's successful experience.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-08

    Hehe! Put away your unprofessionalism! When is it?

    Also smashed the pot! Don't you feel bored? The world's first strategist judges!

    It began with a mistake in Longzhong, thousands of miles away and divided into two forces. In the end, Guan Yu, Liu Bei, and Zhuge were three points of troops, and they were undefeated?

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-07

    Longzhong's strategic plan is no problem. It's just that the reality is not high.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    Longzhong is a caged man, and he doesn't know what the general trend is.

  7. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    Longzhong seems to be wrong for itself?

    Zhuge Liang said that it was very beautiful, but Zhuge Liang did not explain two points. 1 Zhuge Liang said that the world has changed, so he will send an admiral. So the question is, has the world not changed? What to do? Cao Cao was politically correct, militarily strong, and had a high tolerance for error.

    One meaning is that the situation is miscalculated. In Zhuge 's mind, Liu Bei occupies most of Gyeongju, Liu Bei's lord Sun Quan is a guest, and Liu Bei can only rely on Sun Quan, and there is no capital to oppose. But it backfired, and the actual Sun Quan was Zhu Youfei was a guest.

    His prediction didn't work at all. Longzhong only succeeded in the Yizhou part, and right and wrong are unusual.

    According to Zhuge Liang's design, he occupied Gyeongju Yiju and stayed there. Waiting for the world to change. Unchanged, 2 back, won the game. For Sun Quan, the biggest threat is not Liu Bei, but Liu Bei.

    If you want to cooperate with Sun Quan, you must at least take a knife from Sun Quan's neck and give in. According to the wisdom of Zhuge Liang and Liu Bei, these two points cannot be thought of, but there is no record in the history books, which is really incomprehensible.

    Some people think that Longzhong is a wrong national policy for itself, you see? One meaning is that the situation is miscalculated. In Zhuge 's mind, Liu Bei occupies most of Gyeongju, Liu Bei's lord Sun Quan is a guest, and Liu Bei can only rely on Sun Quan, and there is no capital to oppose.

    But it backfired, and the actual Sun Quan was Zhu Youfei was a guest. His prediction didn't work at all. Longzhong only succeeded in the Yizhou part, and right and wrong are unusual.

    First, Zhuge Liang went to Liu Bei's company for an interview at that time, and he didn't have much experience when he worked in a different place before. In addition, Zhuge left room for himself, and did not say that the hegemony would definitely be realized, nor did Han Shi say that he would definitely prosper.

    In addition, the changes in the world are not said to have been seen before Liu Bei's death. With Sun Quan as a rubber ball, he forgot that Sun Quan also had the capital to surrender if he surrendered. The Southern Expedition is Jiangdong, and the importance of the Southern Expedition is very important to the three families, which does not take Sun Wukong seriously.

    Another meaning is that the situation is miscalculated. In Zhuge 's mind, Liu Bei occupies most of Gyeongju, Liu Bei's lord Sun Quan is a guest, and Liu Bei can only rely on Sun Quan, and there is no capital to oppose. But it backfired, and the actual Sun Quan was Zhu Youfei was a guest.

    His prediction didn't work at all. Longzhong only succeeded in the Yizhou part, and right and wrong are unusual.

  8. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    No. Longzhong is Zhuge Liang's half-life hard work, which is reasonable, but Liu Bei lost Jingzhou because of carelessness, which finally led to the failure of the strategy.

  9. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    Of course not, Zhuge Liang is a very smart person, so Liu Bei valued him so much, and he decided to go out of the mountain after three visits to the thatched house, so I think it was well thought out.

  10. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    Why do some people think that as soon as Zhuge Liang's "Longzhong Pair" was introduced, it was doomed to the demise of Shu.

    Similar to Zhuge Liang Longzhong's plan for this, there were their own strategies among the senior strategists of the Three Kingdoms at that time, such as Eastern Wu Lusu, etc., Zhuge also conducted a preliminary analysis according to the situation at the time, Zhuge Liang was only twenty-seven years old when he was introduced, he was a human being and not a god, it is not easy to have such an opinion, and the theory is that it must not have passed the actual combat and whether it can stand the test.

    Longzhong is just an idea, Jingzhou is the gateway, free to enter, beneficial to the state as the base camp for the rear, and Jingzhou is also the gateway of Wu, is Shu, Wu must fight for the place.

    Zhuge Liang Longzhong's shortcomings are to divide troops to guard, originally there were fewer soldiers and horses, and a few soldiers were divided, but it turned out that they were broken by each other, and Guan Yu was divided into Jingzhou City, Jingzhou people, including Guan Yu's father and son, were cut off by Dongwu, and from this time on, it was announced that Longzhong was stillborn.

    History also proves this, Zhuge Liang with the strength of the whole country, long-term continuous war, countless casualties and several times of the Northern Expedition to no avail, the reason is that even Wu to resist Cao (Wei) Eastern Wu may not be single-minded, but also happened more undeserved Yiling battle, in fact, after the defeat of the Battle of Yiling, it has been announced that the destruction of Shu is not far away.

    In Zhuge Longzhong, there is one of the most critical sentences, that is, to wait for "When the situation changes greatly" Shu State changed history without losing Jingzhou, but Shu did not wait for this opportunity, that is just a matter of course, but Shu State has instead seen the phenomenon of destroying the country, losing the key Jingzhou, the five tiger generals went to the fourth, Liu Bei also died after the Battle of Yiling, and the Shu State at that time shrank in Yizhou and did not do much, which is similar to our country in the civil war before the founding of the People's Republic of China, there are also people waiting for the third world war to change history, It's a pity that he didn't get his wish, Kong Ming didn't wait, even if he waited until Jingzhou was lost, there was no chance, and there was no chance to even get out of Qishan, so the military strategists pointed out the defective places in Longzhong, so that future generations could summarize and improve, take its essence, and remove its dross.

  11. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    Zhuge Liang did have a clear understanding of the strength of Cao's army at that time, but he obviously lacked an understanding of the development trends and internal crises of Cao Cao's regime. At that time, Cao Cao's regime had a clear goal of unifying the world, and no matter who it was, it had to face the situation of competing with it, and the Xiliang army in the Guanzhong region was Cao Cao's elbow and armpit, and the Ma family army at that time was stationed in Guanlong, and the power was very strong.

    In addition, Zhuge Liang proposed that Sun Quan possessed Jiangdong, which could not be used as a helper, but immediately proposed that Jingzhou was desirable, so a greater strategic mistake appeared, Sun Wu in Yangzhou, the lower reaches of the Yangtze River, had been eyeing Jingzhou since the time of Sun Jian, and the reason was that in order to ensure that Jiangdong was safe, it was necessary to collect Jingzhou to resist the invasion from the north. Since Dongwu is bound to win Jingzhou, it is absolutely impossible for Zhuge Liang to ensure the reinforcement of Dongwu while occupying Jingzhou. It can be seen from the back and forth between the two sides in Jingzhou that Eastern Wu will not stop in Jingzhou, and Zhuge Liang's Jingzhou strategy from the beginning laid the groundwork for Lü Meng to cross the river and Guan Yu to be defeated.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    Zhuge Liang's suggestions to Liu Bei in "Longzhong Pair" are all based on Zhuge Liang's understanding and inference of the situation at that time before leaving the mountain, and there must be some limitations. Historians have always praised Zhuge Liang's strategic ideas in "Longzhong Pair", but three wise men saw the problems, and the biggest failure was in Jingzhou. Liu Bei had a bad relationship with Sun Quan because of his occupation of Jingzhou, and finally lost Jingzhou, was defeated, and went into decline.

    The so-called success is also "Longzhong Pair", and defeat is also "Longzhong Pair"!

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    I think Longzhong is right, what is wrong is that Master Guan lost Jingzhou, and only Yizhou is left, which makes it difficult for Shu to stand alone, and what is wrong is that Boss Liu, in order to avenge Master Guan, did not listen to Zhuge Liang's persuasion, and had to fight Dongwu, and finally made a big defeat in Yiling, and the vitality of Shu was greatly damaged, and it was finally finished.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    Hehe! The strategist's criticism of the first person in the world does not need to be explained at all: "The demise of Shu Han began with the mistake of "Longzhong Pair", thousands of miles away and divided into two forces, and in the end, Guan Yu, Liu Bei, and Zhuge were divided into three troops, and they were undefeated. ”

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    No, Guan Yu's careless loss of Jingzhou led to the failure of Longzhong's strategic plan, coupled with the defeat of Yiling, and the decline of Shu.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    No, the main reason is because Guan Zha Ridge Xuyu lost Jingzhou, because in Zhuge Liang's planning, Jingzhou's strategic position is the most important, and after Guan Yu is lost, Zhuge Liang's plan will be completely disrupted, and the rupture of the Sun-Liu alliance is also the main reason.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    The reason for Liu Bei's failure was not Zhuge Lianglongzhong's mistake, but Liu Bei's own big mistake.

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    Of course not because of these. There is absolutely nothing wrong with high school, but it is just because the time and place are not on Liu Bei's side that it leads to failure.

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