If Ma Tan condescendingly killed Zhang He in the street pavilion, how high would his status be?

Updated on history 2024-06-11
21 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-11

    Ma Tan is regarded as Zhuge Liang's protégé, if the battle of Ma Tan Street Pavilion destroyed Zhang He, and helped Zhuge Liang successfully take Yongzhou, after taking Yongzhou, Shu could go as far as Chang'an, laying a solid foundation for the future Northern Expedition; Ma Yan's status among the generals will definitely surpass Chaoyun, but it will be lower than Guan Yu.

    and Zhang Fei's status in Shu.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-10

    Then Ma Tan's ability will be recognized by Zhuge Liang, Zhuge Liang originally had a good relationship with Ma Yan, if Ma Tan can really make meritorious contributions, then Ma Tan's status may still be above Wei Yan.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-09

    If this way, his status can be comparable to that of the Five Tiger Generals, because Zhuge Liang cultivated him as the second batch of talents.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-08

    If Ma Tan held the street pavilion and blocked Zhang He, then Zhuge Liang could calmly conquer the Longxi region, encroach on the power of Wei, further build a bridgehead to attack Wei, and reverse the situation of Wei being strong and Shu weak.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-07

    If Ma Tan held the street pavilion, Zhang He would not dare to put the back road to threaten to bypass here and fight Zhuge Cheng. However, Longxi does not have much population, and Guanzhong has long been ruined, and it is impossible to expect tens of thousands of troops brought out from Shuzhong to attack the Central Plains. There is a high probability that it will not be able to turn over in the end.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    Judging from the goals and results of the Northern Expedition, even if the street pavilion is not lost, all snipers can be blocked, and the city can be broken within a month. Can Zhuge Liang keep the five counties of Longyou after the enemy reinforcements arrive one after another? No, after the arrival of enemy reinforcements, the grain route was not cut off and dumplings were wrapped, thank God.

    The army attacked for thousands of miles, and the roads in and out of Shu were difficult and difficult, and logistics supply was the key to the Northern Expedition. Once tens of thousands of troops were cut off from food routes and retreats, the consequences were unimaginable.

  7. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    Shu can defeat Xiliang, but can't hold it, Shu can hold its own one-acre three-point land, to put it mildly, eight points is based on the terrain, laying down Xiliang, it seems that the territory has expanded, but Xiliang is not like Xishu is easy to defend and difficult to attack, and sooner or later it will be dragged to death by Wei in a war of attrition.

  8. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    If Ma Tan can successfully block Zhang He in the street pavilion, Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition will be at least half successful, and he will not let Prime Minister Zhuge Liang die before he can leave his army, leaving such a regret for the ages.

  9. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    Don't think about it, it's useless to hold the street pavilion, you must know that the battle of the street pavilion happened to be the year when Sima Yi occupied Shangyong and killed Meng Da, Jingzhou had been lost, and Sima Yi led the Wei army to attack Yizhou or Hanzhong from Shangyong.

  10. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    I don't think so. After all, only one person has succeeded, and it is impossible to affect the entire Northern Expedition, and in the process of the Northern Expedition, a lot of strength has been wasted, and a lot of time has been wasted to continue the Northern Expedition, which will also hurt the foundation of the country.

  11. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    I think that Zhuge Liang can succeed in the Northern Expedition in this situation, he Zhuge Liang is a relatively smart person, and he is very good at doing things and dealing with people.

  12. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    I don't think so. The reason why Zhuge Liang's Northern Expedition failed was because his illness was already very serious, and he might die halfway.

  13. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    In the sixth year of Jianxing, Liang sent the army to Qishan, and sometimes there were generals Wei Yan and Wu Yi, etc., and the commentators all said that it was appropriate to order the vanguard to burn the regiment, and Liang violated the public's command, and the public was in front, and the Wei general Zhang Tai fought in the street pavilion, which was broken by Tai, and the soldiers were scattered. Liang Jin had no basis, and the retreat Zhaoyan army returned to Hanzhong. After going to prison, Liang was weeping.

    Romance of the Three Kingdoms: The Biography of Ma Liang Ma Tan).

    This is the narrative in the Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms, not so much to lose to Zhang He as to lose to himself, a large part of the reason comes from Ma Tan's own stubbornness and negligence to underestimate the enemy, otherwise the street pavilion would not be so easy to guess the loss of orange.

  14. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    Ma Tan was defeated by the famous Wei general Zhang He. Zhang He was a famous general of Wei during the Three Kingdoms period, one of the "five good generals" under Cao Cao, first from Han Fu, and then to Yuan Shao, and had many merits in the battle with Gongsun Zhan. During the battle of Guandu, Zhang He was framed by Guo Tu, led the people to surrender to Cao Cao, and was reused, followed Cao Cao to pacify the north, expedition to Wuhuan, Ping Ma Chao, and destroyed Zhang Lu, with many military exploits. Later, Zhang He was stationed in Hanzhong with Xiahou Yuan, and temporarily acted as the commander after Xiahou Yuan was killed, maintaining the defeated army.

    During the period of Emperor Wei Ming, Zhuge Liang's first Northern Expedition, Zhang He was ordered to rescue Longyou, and defeated the Shu general Ma Tan at Jieting, causing Zhuge Liang to withdraw his troops; When Zhuge Liang was the fourth time, Zhang He went with Sima Yi to refuse. After Zhuge Liang ran out of food and retreated, Zhang He chased to the wooden gate, engaged Zhuge Liang's army, and was shot in the right knee by a flying arrow and died.

    In the sixth year of Jianxing, Liang sent the army to Qishan, and sometimes there were generals Wei Yan, Wu Yi, etc., and the commentators all said that it was appropriate to order as the vanguard, and Liang violated the public, and the public was in front, and the Wei general Zhang Tai fought in the street pavilion, which was broken by Tai, and the soldiers were scattered. Liang Jin had no basis, and the army retreated to Hanzhong. After going to prison, Liang was weeping.

    Romance of the Three Kingdoms: The Biography of Ma Liang Ma Tan).

    The above is the narrative in the Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms, not so much to lose to Zhang He as to lose to himself, a large part of the reason comes from Ma Tan's own stubbornness, theory is divorced from practice and negligence underestimates the enemy, otherwise the street pavilion will not be so easy to lose.

  15. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    Zhang Jaw, who was besieged in the street pavilion by Zhang Jaw cutting off the water source.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    The Romance of the Three Kingdoms is Sima Yi, and the official history is Zhang Jaw.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    Even if he defended the street pavilion, he couldn't defeat Cao Wei, and with Cao Cao's military talent and so many generals under him, maybe the more he went to the back, the worse he lost.

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    Personally, I think that even if Ma Tan can really defeat Zhang He, the general of Wei, in the Battle of Jieting, it will not help the entire Northern Expedition in the slightest, and it can only be said that Wei has lost an extremely talented generalAnd this military general can be replaced, why do you say that? Let's analyze several important reasons why even if Ma Tan was able to succeed in the Northern Expedition, he could not win.

    The Battle of Jieting is just a local battle, Zhuge Liang's tears and slashing Ma Jian have been remade countless times, made into TV series, made into movies, and even special repertoire for Peking Opera, even in cross talk, there is this paragraph, many people think that if equestrianism is not a production proposition and follows Zhuge Liang's advice, then after the extermination of Zhang He, it is likely that Shu will dominate the world, but this perception is absolutely wrong.

    Zhuge Liang's first Northern Expedition, in fact, the most important army is Zhao Yun, Zhuge Liang is three arrows in this war, and Ma Tan is just responsible for the ambush of the encirclement and reinforcements, even if Ma Tan can win this battle, it is just to improve his status, and let Zhuge Liang have a reason to use him more, and can not change the development of the entire war situation.

    The difference in strength between the two countries is too great, Zhuge Liang went out of Qishan and Jiang Wei to attack the Central Plains nine times, why did Shu keep fighting this war with Wei? Because people up and down the Shu State know one thing, the difference in strength between the Wei State and the Shu State is too great, if it is consumed, the Shu State will not have any chance of winning, and it is impossible to reverse the gap between the strength of the two countries with only one war or one battle.

    Therefore, Zhuge Liang slashed Ma Jian with tears, in fact, Ma Jian died a little wronged, or that sentence, if you can win a battle, you may not be able to win the whole war, and the strength of Shu may not be able to swallow such a big family as Wei, so we can only speculate about the drama of the snake swallowing the elephant, and theoretically think that it has the possibility of realization, but it is really difficult to achieve in actual combat power.

    Wei is full of talents, we can imagine that Zhuge Liang's first Northern Expedition was because Ma Jian did not act according to his plan, but after Zhuge Liang beheaded Ma Jian with tears, Zhuge Liang did the same thing 5 times before and after, why didn't he succeed? The reason is very simple for me, it is really a fierce general like a tiger, and a strategist like a cloud.

    Just one Sima Yi can make Zhuge Liang unable to think of any countermeasures to deal with this most powerful enemy, and on the other hand, Shu State, on the surface, it seems that Zhuge Liang has indeed achieved one person under ten thousand people, but in fact, he is secretly constrained by all the people and cannot play, and looking at Sima Yi over there, he can gather all the talents of Wei to fight against this enemy, so even if he is equestrian alive, even if he is equestrian, for an immortal achievement, he may not be able to win this battle.

  19. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    Street pavilion is a very important traffic chokepoint, occupying street pavilion can bring great convenience to the Northern Expedition, but it cannot determine whether the Northern Expedition can be victorious. There were other factors that played a role in the success of the Northern Expedition.

  20. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    The Northern Expedition will not be easily victorious, because even if Zhang He is destroyed, his generals will take his place, and even his subordinates will fight back because of the loss of generals.

  21. Anonymous users2024-01-22

    Even if Ma Tan destroyed Zhang He, there was no way to succeed in the Northern Expedition, because the battle line of the Shu army was too long to transport grain and grass in time, and it was impossible to win under the command of Sima Yi.

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