The developer said that the wall can be smashed, but the property is not allowed, what should I do?

If it is indeed not a load-bearing wall, the easiest way is to find the leader of the property company and stuff some red envelopes.

If it is a load-bearing wall, quickly restore the original state, and smash the wall, you should communicate with the property in advance to avoid disputes.

Let them send someone (generally speaking, it is the decoration inspection master of the engineering department) to confirm that the decoration of the house is good-looking for the purpose of living in it, if it is really load-bearing, you are not at ease to live at night?

First of all, it is necessary to find out whether the non-load-bearing wall can be knocked out, and paying the garbage disposal fee are completely different things, and should be understood separately. 1. The non-load-bearing wall can be knocked out, but if you can prepare a case with the developer, you can communicate.

When faced with this situation, the following steps can be taken:

1.Communication: First, communicate with the developer to understand why they think the wall can be smashed, and at the same time, communicate with the property to understand why they think the wall should not be smashed.

3.Professional advice: If you are unsure about the regulations, you can seek the advice of a professional architect or renovation designer to see if such changes are feasible.

4.Negotiated settlement: If the developer and the property have different opinions, you can try to negotiate a solution to find a mutually acceptable solution.

The above are general recommendations for dealing with such issues, and it is up to the actual situation to decide what action to take.

Do you have to get the consent of the property to smash the wall?

Smashing the wall requires the consent of the property. According to the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development issued by the Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development of the "Trial Measures for the Management of Home Decoration", the owner of the house must be approved by the property when carrying out the main renovation or processing load project, and must be registered with the Housing Authority, and then the housing management personnel and the decoration household together with the Housing Appraisal Department to apply for approval.

What are the precautions for smashing the wall:

1. In order to expand the indoor space, many owners will smash the wall when decorating, but they do not know much about the structure of the wall, so before smashing the wall, they must go to the property for the record and can only be smashed with permission.

2. The load-bearing wall cannot be smashed, but now many owners are more capricious, thinking that it doesn't matter if they smash a little, and they will smash it, which will not only affect the structure of the house, but also cause potential safety hazards.

3. The beams are also load-bearing structures that cannot be smashed. In real life, many owners will punch holes in the beams of the house in order to wear pipes and wiring, and some owners will even open the pipes of the air conditioner on the beams, destroying the structure of the house and causing potential safety hazards.

4. The beams of the house are load-bearing floor slabs, and if they are damaged, the floor slabs may collapse.

After the house was in hand, everyone was busy decorating. Many homeowners may not be very satisfied with the developer's design, so they will remove the excess walls. But some properties do not allow the owner to hit the wall, so how do we deal with the property that does not allow the wall to be hit?

Let's find out together!

If it is a non-load-bearing wall, the owner can knock it out, first go to the developer for the record, get their support and understanding, and pay attention to safety when applying the mold width. The garbage generated during the renovation will affect the environment, and the garbage should be cleaned up in time. The property is only a service for the owner and has no authority to decide or approve; However, in order to prevent accidents, the developer will entrust the property to supervise the renovation of the owner, and in order to reduce the management pressure, the property hopes that the owner will change as few places as possible.

What is the role of non-load-bearing walls?

1. Many people think that the non-load-bearing wall is not load-bearing, and compared with the load-bearing wall, the non-load-bearing wall is secondary, but it is an important Danqingliang support for the load-bearing wall.

2. Structurally speaking, the non-load-bearing wall is a seismic wall in design, and if it occurs, the non-load-bearing wall and the load-bearing wall bear the force together.

What are the consequences of casually demolishing non-load-bearing walls?

1. There is no big problem in removing the non-load-bearing wall or making a hole in the non-load-bearing wall, but if the owner of the whole building wants to demolish and modify the non-load-bearing wall, then the seismic resistance of the whole building will be reduced. According to relevant experts, the load-bearing walls of some rooms can be removed, and the brick walls in the bathroom, such as the support beams designed in the floor structure, can also be removed, otherwise they cannot be removed. But be careful not to destroy the waterproofing layer, otherwise you will have to redo it.

2. After the demolition of the non-load-bearing wall, the water circuit may also be changed, which should be considered before demolition. If the owner wants to demolish the wall, he should apply to the property first, and the construction will start after approval.

Legal analysis: If the owner has a dispute with the property due to decoration problems, he can first negotiate and deal with it, and if the negotiation fails, he can request the neighborhood committee and other organizations to mediate, or he can file a lawsuit with the people's court, and the people's court will make a judgment.

Article 2 of the Mediation Law of the People's Republic of China: "People's mediation" as used in this Law refers to the activities of the people's mediation committee to promote the chain of suspicion or enable the parties to voluntarily reach a mediation agreement on the basis of consultation on an equal footing to resolve civil disputes through persuasion, counseling, and other methods.

Article 3: The following principles shall be followed when people call on the mediation committee to mediate civil disputes: (1) Conduct mediation on the basis of the parties' willingness and equality; (2) Do not violate laws, regulations, and national policies; (3) Respect the rights of the parties, and the parties shall not be prevented from protecting their rights through arbitration, administrative, judicial and other channels in accordance with the law because of mediation.

Article 3 of the Civil Procedure Law of the People's Republic of China: The provisions of this Law apply to people's courts accepting civil lawsuits brought by citizens, legal persons, other organizations, and between them due to property and personal relationships.

Article 119:The following requirements must be met for initiating a lawsuit: (1) The plaintiff is a citizen, legal person, or other organization that has a direct interest in the case; (2) There is a clear defendant; (3) There are specific litigation claims, facts, and reasons; (4) It is within the scope of civil litigation accepted by the people's court and the jurisdiction of the people's court receiving the lawsuit.

Article 23 The people's court at the place where the defendant is domiciled or where the contract is performed shall have jurisdiction over a lawsuit arising from a dispute over a contract.

Summary. 1. What should I do if the non-load-bearing wall property is not allowed to be demolished?

You can take out the construction drawings of the developer's engineering department to prove that it is not a load-bearing wall to be demolished, most of the properties are demolished, but when demolishing, it is necessary not to destroy the waterproof layer, so as to ensure the safety of the house while ensuring the decoration effect, in addition, even if it is not a load-bearing wall, but some walls are thicker, and they also play a load-bearing role.

2. How to identify non-load-bearing walls.

1. In fact, the easiest way is to knock with your hands, clench your fist and knock on the wall to listen to the sound. If it's a banging sound that sounds empty and your hands don't hurt that much, it's a non-load-bearing wall.

2. Look at the identification line, usually after the completion of the project, the red and black lines will be drawn on the wall to distinguish, the normal red line is a non-load-bearing wall, and the black line represents the load-bearing wall, in fact, this point needs to be confirmed with the property.

3. Judging by the thickness of the wall, the general load-bearing walls are relatively thick, while the non-load-bearing walls will be relatively thin.

4. Judging by the location, usually the exterior wall and the neighbor's common wall are load-bearing.

What to do if the property does not allow the non-load-bearing wall to be smashed.

First, what to do if the non-load-bearing wall property is not allowed to be demolished, you can take out the construction drawings of the developer's engineering department to prove that it is not a load-bearing wall to be demolished, most of the properties are to be demolished, but when demolishing, you should pay attention not to destroy the waterproof layer, so as to ensure the safety of the house while ensuring the decoration effect, in addition, even if it is not a load-bearing wall, but some walls are thicker, and also play a load-bearing role, * do not directly dismantle, only half of the bricks or light bricks can be directly demolished, otherwise it will be easy to collapse. 2. How to distinguish a non-load-bearing wall 1, in fact, the easiest way is to knock with your hands, clench your fist and knock on the wall to listen to the sound. If it's a banging sound that sounds empty and your hands don't hurt that much, it's a non-load-bearing wall. 2. Look at the identification line, usually after the completion of the project, the red and black lines will be drawn on the wall to distinguish, the normal red line is a non-load-bearing wall, and the black line represents the load-bearing wall, in fact, this point needs to be confirmed with the property.

3. Judging by the thickness of the wall, the general load-bearing walls are relatively thick, while the non-load-bearing walls will be relatively thin. 4. Judging by the location, usually the exterior wall and the neighbor's common wall are load-bearing.

The sales contract has indicated that this part belongs to you, and you have the right to dispose of it, and if the property is not allowed to be smashed, you can find the property manager, or report the property <> directly

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Legal analysis: It is advisable to negotiate with the parties or sue according to the contract.

Legal basis: Labor Contract Law of the People's Republic of China

Article 3 The conclusion of a labor contract shall follow the principles of legality, fairness, equality, voluntariness, consensus, and good faith. The labor contract concluded in accordance with the law is binding, and the employer and the employee shall perform the obligations stipulated in the labor contract.

Article 10 In establishing a labor relationship, a written labor balance shall be concluded. If a labor relationship has been established and a written labor contract has not been concluded at the same time, the company shall conclude a written labor contract within one month from the date of employment. If the employer and the employee conclude a labor contract before employment, the employment relationship shall be established from the date of employment.

Article 30 and Article 6 The employer and the employee may terminate the labor contract if they reach an agreement through consultation.