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No, 8-speed and 10-speed are not compatible, and they can't be used when installed, 10-speed and 8-speed cable are not the same, if you use DEORE's 10-speed dial, then the rear dial and flywheel have to be replaced with a 10-speed one, as well as a chain, this is a big project, it is not recommended to upgrade, not only 10-speed, 8-speed upgrade to 9-speed also need to be replaced including finger dial, rear dial, flywheel and chain.
In other words, the 8-speed, 9-speed and 10-speed are all incompatible systems and cannot be compromised.
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The 10-speed Deore shifter model should be the M591, the M590 shifter is only a 9-speed, and the 10-speed shifter cannot be used on an 8-speed kit.
You can buy the M410 split finger dial to make do with it first, and ** the whole set of kits will be cheaper than you buy one by one. The cheap money is enough to buy an 8-speed steering dial for Alivio.
Dual control is not the same as conjoined, and dual control is only available above deore. This thing is not fashionable like the conjoined body, I think the dual control is very uncomfortable, and I can't make a mistake when I want to brake, and it becomes a shifter, or use the finger dial.
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The M410 also has a dual-control brake lever? It should be a joint finger brake handlebar, right? Dual control means that the brake lever is the gear lever, the front and rear are brake operations, and the up and down are variable speed operations.
Shimano's 10-speed is not backward compatible from the start. The 10-speed derailleur is only compatible with the 10-speed front derailleur and the 10-speed cassette. The 10-speed rear derailleur doesn't matter, and it can be used on the 8-speed.
Now the 9-speed and 10-speed ** are not much different, so it's better to go straight to the 10-speed. The 8-speed M410 kit really doesn't have much value in being upgraded, and you have to replace it with a full set. If you really want to make do with it, change to the 590's 9-speed dial, which can be compatible with the 8-speed and let the other parts not change for the time being.
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It's best not to match it like this, generally the finger dial and the front dial and the back dial must be matched with a model, you must not be very compatible with this match, and the finger dial is changed to ten speeds, and the flywheel should also be changed. It is still recommended that you like enough money to directly exchange a large set of deore
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It can be changed, but it doesn't make much sense to dial after changing. It's all 9-speed stuff that can be changed at will, and it's all compatible. There is no rule that A should be changed and B must be replaced.
Changing the crankset and flywheel is relatively meaningful, and the transmission of force will be more direct.
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The most typical case for beginners, of course, can be visually NB for others who are also beginners.
Beginners just think that the higher the shift, the better. In terms of vehicle performance, the transmission kit is the least important link, and the wheels are changed only after the frame, fork, wheelset, and crankset.
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As soon as the force is forced, it is likely to be the central axis of the bottom bracket, or the pedal. Generally, the crankset is not so easy to break, unless it is caused by a car accident. In addition, it has been upgraded to 590, and I want to ask, how long did your car take?
Participate in the contest? If it's a normal ride, it's okay to ride 390 for a year, unless it's violently it, hehe.
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It doesn't make much sense, if you want to change, it's better to change the middle set of M430 If you want to brake together, you will have to change the 590, and you will have to change the flywheel.
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It's not really necessary, because the performance you can improve is not as high as you think.
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EF I've seen EF28, EF40, EF51-7, EF51-8, EF60-7, EF60-8, EF65-7, EF65-8 and EF65-9.
I don't know what series EF belongs to.,Only EF40 is written on TORENY.,The others are not written.,Some people say that EF is a conjoined finger dial,But M360,M410 also has a conjoined version I really don't understand which series EF is.,Let's call it EF series.。
There is not much difference between these fingers, except for their appearance.
Alivier should be Alivio, right? This is just a transliteration of alivio. And Alivio is Shimano's top entertainment series, and it's not even a professional entry.
The 7-speed EF65-7 is the top-of-the-line, the 8-speed Alivio M410 is the top-of-the-line, and the better series than the Alivio are all 9-speed or 10-speed, and there is no 8-speed and below fingers, Deore used to have an 8-speed but it has been discontinued for many years.
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The EF51 looks like an 8-speed conjoined trigger, which is very low-end.
Now it's a common 9-speed system. There are M390 M430 fingers, about 100-200 pieces.
10-speed M590, SLX, XT finger dial, ** is higher about 200, 400, 600 more than that.
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In addition to Alivio, the most common ones are deore, slx, xt, xtr, and now even Acrea Alivio's are nine-speed ......
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Change the window of the bucket handle upwards, let the rear sleeve on the handlebar, then install the brake lever and grip, and then use the 5mm hexagon lock key with finger dial.
Note that the lever is empty and the front is below, and the window is in the right position at the top.
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The finger dial belt is released instantly, that is, when the gear is pressed backshift, it is shifted, and the deore is not, you must press it down and let go before Zhou Shila can shift the appearance of the finger dial is much more beautiful than the M590 The weight of the finger dial is light, and the two are only about 160 grams 4When shifting gears, the feeling of slippery is smooth and relatively light. As for the XT post-dial deore finger dial, there is no problem at all, it can be compatible!
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Remove it, loosen the cap clamp with pliers, and pull the cord out. Replace with a new one, thread and clip the cap.
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Hello ,, it's not that you have a problem with your Shimano M590, now two more possibilities are your situation; 1. Your front derailleur pipe has water or sand, and the friction in the wire pipe increases, which causes the manual change to require a lot of strength to change the speed. 2. It may be that there is a mistake in the place of your front dial lock shift line, there is a wire groove in the place of the front lock line, and it must be locked according to the place where there is a wire groove, and the direction must be right to ensure that the speed change is unimpeded. The level between the 530 and the 590 is the same as the upgrade, but the old and new models are just good, as for the good, it should be**better**There are improvements in weight and technology.
There is also a personal like, some people just like to quarrel with the old model. There is also a dual control is more sensitive than the finger dial operation, it can change many gears at once, but many people do not like dual control, because it is easy to bring to the brake when changing gear, and it will also be brought to the speed change when braking, and most people still like to split.
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Isn't it good that I also use the M590 system, but I haven't gotten on the car yet, and I'm waiting for the fork. To say that the M590 is by far the lowest in the 9-speed series doesn't mean it's bad. No series uses the reasonable value of his existence M590 is the same, believe me this set is still very good.
The mainstream car configuration of 35,000 to 7,000 is basically dominated by her. So you still have to have confidence in your car. To put it bluntly, the function of two-way release means that the dial can be deducted and can be dialed, and the speed change can be completed in a short time in high-speed operation, and the positive side of the function is still good, and the key is an adaptation process.
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Deore can also be used, but it doesn't feel as good as xtr, and it's not enough.
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Shimano's lowest-end 30S mountain kit is the Deore M590-3 current mid-kit The price is about 1500 The price is inflated and the performance is very average: The SLX mid-kit 1950 is relatively stable except for the finger dial is also good!
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M430 only has 27 speeds, 30 speeds have M590, and the large set of ** parallel goods is 2000
The 30-speed kit of the speed link is x5, and the ** of the middle set is about 1300.
Personally, I recommend not upgrading to the 30-speed, it's worth the money to spend on the fork.
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If you want to change gears better, change to SHIMANO's 430 derailleur front derailleur and rear derailleur. The transmission upgrade is the most valuable consideration, and the crankset, bottom bracket and pedals can be replaced.
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It's not a good deal to upgrade, because there is no improvement in performance and you have to buy a new pair of brake handlebars.
You don't need to change the brake Li Min line, just use the original one. The gear line is with the finger dial, and the buy finger dial has a shift line on it.
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