Is it reasonable for Ma Tan to set up camp on the hill next to the street pavilion?

Updated on history 2024-08-10
24 answers
  1. Anonymous users2024-02-15

    It makes sense, ascend and descend, according to the high ground is obviously advantageous. However, the art of war is changeable, and tactics can only be formulated in combination with the actual battle situation, and Ma Tan did not expect that in this way, if Cao's army blocked their way down the mountain at the foot of the mountain and surrounded them, the grain would definitely be defeated.

  2. Anonymous users2024-02-14

    It makes sense that the camp is set up at a high place to avoid the enemy's fire attack and flooding, and if the sentinels are excluded and the enemy can be detected in time, then archery can be carried out at a high place, and great strategic results can be obtained at a very small cost.

  3. Anonymous users2024-02-13

    It makes sense, it has the same meaning as Han Xin's last battle, except that he ignores the problem of water sources.

  4. Anonymous users2024-02-12

    In the battle of Jieting, the reason why Ma Tan wanted to camp on the mountain was because he felt that it was more beneficial to the army of Shu Han, if he only camped on the main road, he would fall into a state of passive defense, but camped on the mountain, but he was able to attack downward with the help of geographical advantages, even if Sima Yi closed the mountain, the soldiers could burst out with stronger combat effectiveness in order to survive, but the helpless ideal was very plump and the reality was very skinny, Sima Yi was a mercenary master who did not give him the opportunity to fight a decisive battle at the same time as closing the mountain, So that Ma Tan's strategy was useless at all, and when the army's morale was weakened, Sima Yi came to set fire to the mountain without destroying the power, and defeated Ma Tan's army.

    Theoretically, Ma Tan's strategy had a certain success rate, but unfortunately he met Sima Yi. The soldier has a cloud, plan and then act, you can only make arrangements based on knowing the other party's thoughts first. Even when Zhuge Liang faced Sima Yi alone, he had to be cautious and leave a few more back-ups, but Ma Jian only had this one plan, and when he met Sima Yi, he was naturally seen through by the other party.

    The reason why Ma Tan did this is because of his meritorious service, before this he had been by Zhuge Liang's side to join the army, although he did not lead the troops to fight, but he had a very high status, this time Zhuge Liang sent it out alone for the first time, many generals were skeptical of his ability, the more in this case, the more he wanted to fight, in one breath, but, this was just a taboo for soldiers, he couldn't think rationally, in order to make meritorious service, he chose a risky road, which gave Sima Yi an opportunity.

    Of course, in addition to this, Ma Tan also has his own considerations, if he is just camping on the main road, he will gradually fall into passivity, he thinks that his intelligence is not as good as Sima Yi, if he has been defending, I am afraid it is easy to lose the street pavilion, from here it can also be seen that Ma Tan is not very confident in himself, so he clearly made a military order, and changed his mind after arriving at the street pavilion, because the opponent he faced was too strong.

  5. Anonymous users2024-02-11

    It was in order to put it to death and live in the future, to learn Han Xin's fighting style of fighting against the water, and it was very advantageous to attack condescendingly, so in the end, Ma Tan decided to camp on the mountain, and the result was a big defeat.

  6. Anonymous users2024-02-10

    It was because he camped on the mountain that no one would see their tracks, and he was planning to come to a sneak attack from behind and attack the army in front of him.

  7. Anonymous users2024-02-09

    Sima Yi was at peace on this mountain mainly to go to the foot of the high ridge, and he could see other situations to fight a beautiful counterattack, followed by putting him to death and resurrecting, which was equivalent to Han Xin's last battle.

  8. Anonymous users2024-02-08

    Hello, yes, Wang Ping's resourcefulness is also some, if it weren't for Ma Tan's insistence, and he was extremely proud, the street pavilion would have been defended, of course, the Shu country would still be defeated if it held the street pavilion, because the Shu country was doomed, and only benevolence and righteousness would not work.

  9. Anonymous users2024-02-07

    The answer is that it can't be kept.

    Let's take a look at the pre-war situation. Zhuge Liang sent Zhao Yun and Deng Zhi out of the valley to make a large-scale northern expedition to attract the main force of the Wei army; He led the army out of Qishan and obtained the three counties of Longxi by sneak attack. Zhuge Liang intends to operate in Longxi for a long time and break the pattern of the Three Kingdoms.

    For Wei, it was necessary to immediately send an army to reinforce Longxi and drive Zhuge Liang away. After a long delay, Longxi has really become Xishu. At this time, Zhang He led 50,000 elite soldiers to come.

    Jieting is located in Longcheng Town, 40 kilometers northeast of Qin'an County, Tianshui City, Gansu Province, with a width of about 6 kilometers and a length of more than ten kilometers, which is an open area. This place is the "five-way general mouth" in the northwest region, the northwest is mountainous, the southeast is the Qinling Mountains, is the throat of the land of Guanlong, and the strategic position is very important.

    Zhuge Liang asked Ma Jian to hold on and not let the Wei soldiers pass, and he completed the goal. Cao's army not only had to pass through, but also to the west for reinforcements. Behind the street pavilion, Shu generals Wang Ping, Li Sheng, Zhang Xiu, Huang Xian and others are waiting in front, as long as Zhang He passes, they will flank Zhang He with Ma Tan!

    From this point of view, Shu soldiers are more calm and can wait for work! In Ma Yan's opinion, as long as he camped on the hills on both sides of Jieting Road, Cao Jun could shoot arrows when he passed.

  10. Anonymous users2024-02-06

    In the Battle of Jieting during the Three Kingdoms, if Ma U didn't put the soldiers and horses on the mountain, in fact, he couldn't hold the Jieting, but the result would be different, because Zhuge Liang had the next step to arrange, what was needed was time, Zhuge Liang needed horse reinforcement to hold up for a few more days, and he could fight back. In fact, just like the chess of abandoning the cannon or throwing the horse in chess, to take the lead, if Zhuge Liang loses the street pavilion but Ma Tan's soldiers and horses are saved, the result will be different, Zhuge Liang has been able to surround Sima Yi's wish will be realized, and Ma Tan's army will become a force to surround Sima Yi, the result is that Ma Tan's entire army is annihilated, Sima Yi's army is full of fighting spirit, Zhuge Liang's army is seriously frustrated, in fact, the so-called momentum has been lost.

    In fact, in Zhuge Liang's strategy, it is not surprising that Ma Jian lost to Sima Yi, he originally wanted to use bait to deceive Sima Yi, but he has not succeeded, this time is no exception, the reason for not bringing the general is that he is afraid that Sima Yi will not dare to take the move, which belongs to the strategy of luring the enemy to go deeper, Zhuge Liang In the process of six out of Qishan, the main reason is that the soldiers are controlled by Sima Yi, and rarely make mistakes, and often cut off Zhuge Liang's grain and grass, in fact, in the era of cold weapons, the material ** is very difficult, Zhuge Liang belongs to forced combat, Because he has always wanted to get rid of Sima, but every time he always has some luck, we call it "planning things in people, and things in heaven".

    In fact, Sima Yi is very clear about his advantages with Zhuge Liang, his offense is insufficient, and his defense is still more than enough, and he knows that Zhuge Liang is old and can't last a long time, so he uses the word "drag" to consume Zhuge Liang, Zhuge Liang is a long journey every time, and every time he retreats from a shortage of food and grass, although he can design and kill "Zhang He", "Wang Shuang" and other generals, but he can't make substantial progress, especially the Sima family.

    In the end, the Romance of the Three Kingdoms can only blame these on "time, luck, and fate", and it was a hasty matter, which may be a failure at the end of the Three Kingdoms, Liu Bei, who has the strongest combat power and wisdom, actually failed to dominate the world, which is actually a joke.

  11. Anonymous users2024-02-05

    Ma Tan wanted to put his death to life and inspire the fighting spirit of the soldiers, but this was only on paper. Ma Tan's opponent was the experienced Zhang He, who directly occupied the only way up the mountain, and Ma Tan was doomed to fail without water, grain and grass and reinforcements.

    The task given to Ma Tan by Zhuge Liang was to hold Ma Ting and prevent Zhang He's army from continuing to advance, but Ma Tan did not do what Zhuge Liang instructed. Ma Tan didn't even need to win the battle, as long as he could stop Zhang He, the mission would be successful. The army led by Zhuge Liang is the main force, and what Ma Tan has to do is to cooperate with Zhuge Liang to contain Zhang He.

    Once Ma Tan's mission fails, the main army of Shu will face a situation where the enemy will be attacked on the back.

    Zhuge Liang also sent another person to assist Ma Tan, but Ma Jian felt that he needed to grasp a certain initiative to fight, so he ran to the mountains and set up camp. Zhuge Liang sent Wang Ping to assist Ma Tan, although Wang Ping's army was only 1,000 people, but all of them could fight, but Ma Jian did not make good use of this army. Zhuge Liang also sent Gao Xiang and Wei Yan to meet Ma Jian on the left and right sides of the street pavilion respectively, Zhuge Liang had already paved the way for Ma Tan, but Ma Jian had to follow what he thought.

    Ma Jian camped on the mountain, thinking that this would be able to occupy the natural danger, but he didn't know that this would only make others lose food and water. Zhang He knew that after Ma Tan set up camp on the mountain, of course he would not attack the mountain stupidly. He sent troops to block Ma Tan's back road, cut off Ma Tan's water source and reinforcements, so that Ma Jian was a turtle in an urn.

    His plan was easily cracked by the other party, Ma Jian could only be in a hurry, and the task given to him by Zhuge Liang failed. ‍

  12. Anonymous users2024-02-04

    Ma Tan did not listen to Zhuge Liang's admonition to camp on the mountain, with his theory is condescending, easy to defend and difficult to attack, observe the enemy situation at any time, easy to find the enemy's movements, convenient to guard the street pavilion. However, he ignored that once surrounded by enemy troops, although he could see the movement of enemy troops, he was no longer able to kill the enemy. This also illustrates Ma Tan's short-sightedness, pride and underestimation of the strength of the enemy's army, which is also the internal reason for his loss of the street pavilion.

  13. Anonymous users2024-02-03

    In fact, Ma Jian also has a certain military talent, or Zhuge Liang can't be entrusted with important tasks. Because he is full of military books and knows the art of war, he also gave Zhuge Liang a lot of strategies in peacetime battles. It's just that it applies tactics too rigidly.

    It is believed that condescending to have the advantage of height, and killing the enemy from a high place to a low place can be overwhelming. Logically speaking, it's still possible. It's just that he met Sima Yi, and Sima Yi adopted the method of besieging and cutting off the water source.

  14. Anonymous users2024-02-02

    Ma Tan did not listen to Zhuge Liang's admonition and camped on the mountain, the main reason for this was that he only knew how to copy the book of war, and did not know that according to the battle situation at that time, if he could follow Zhuge Liang's advice, coupled with Wang Ping's assistance, then he should guard the street pavilion, and there should not be too much of a problem.

  15. Anonymous users2024-02-01

    Easy to defend and difficult to attack, grasp the initiative to attack. Ma Tan is talented, but he is not the kind that is in charge alone, and he can be a strategist. Ma Jian used to follow Zhuge Liang, and Zhuge Liang checked it, so he could make good use of it.

    When I pulled it out alone, I felt that I was very good and easy to swell, and ignored Wang Ping's many admonitions, and finally missed Qingqing's life.

  16. Anonymous users2024-01-31

    Ma Tan was only a civilian official at the time, and had no experience in warfare, so he really had no generals at that time, so he was sent to lead troops to guard the street pavilion, Zhuge Liang asked him to camp on the main road, which was actually decided according to the local terrain, but he did not listen to Zhuge Liang, which led to the failure of that battle.

  17. Anonymous users2024-01-30

    Condescending, easy to defend and difficult to attack. But he ignored the water source.

  18. Anonymous users2024-01-29

    This is Zhuge Liang's failure, improper use of people, do not trust others, if Wang Ping is used, history may be rewritten!! But it didn't trust him!!

  19. Anonymous users2024-01-28

    There is no reason, self-righteousness.

  20. Anonymous users2024-01-27

    Condescending, easy to defend and difficult to attack!

  21. Anonymous users2024-01-26

    Her personality is in a hurry and wants to get a credit first.

  22. Anonymous users2024-01-25

    Rigidly set the art of war, condescendingly, using the ground to defend the street pavilion! But they forgot that the water source is in a low-lying place!

  23. Anonymous users2024-01-24

    Even if it is stationed in the street pavilion, it is difficult to defend the castle.

    The reason is not complicated, Ma Yan's ability to command the troops, as well as the will to fight, are too far behind. The reason why Ma Tan abandoned the street pavilion city and ran to the mountain in the south of the city is that some people analyze that the reason is that the street pavilion is in disrepair, and many places have been dilapidated, which is not conducive to perseverance. At the same time, in order to gain a condescending advantage.

    In fact, the problem of the city is relatively easy to solve. It is common to march and fight, and set up camp. Especially Zhuge Liang, the march has always been steady, so the engineering ability of the Shu soldiers is very strong.

    Ma Tan had time to set up camp on the mountain, so it was better to send soldiers to cut down wood, transport earth and stones, and properly repair the weak points of the street pavilion. What's more, the terrain of Jieting City is relatively high, and for Zhang He, who launched an attack from the southeast, Ma Tan still has a condescending advantage.

    Ma Tan "gave up the water and went up the mountain, and the measures were troublesome", and the army was very chaotic under command. Moreover, the war was slightly unfavorable, "all the stars were scattered", Ma Jian not only could not control the army, but even he himself took the lead in escaping. This is the clear proof that a general is incompetent and exhausts thousands of troops.

    Ma Jian is not a general who can command on the spot, he is just a staff officer who can make suggestions for the commander's reference.

    When Zhuge Liang attacked Qishan, everyone suggested that the old generals Wei Yan, Wu Yi and others should be used as the vanguard, but Zhuge Liang did not listen, and appointed Ma Yan, who he admired very much, to lead the army, and then defended the attack of Cao Wei's general Zhang He in the military stronghold Street Pavilion.

    Ma Tan violated Zhuge Liang's festival in the street pavilion, and his actions were annoying, and he abandoned the water source even more, and chose to climb the Nanshan Mountain to defend rather than occupy the town below the mountain; General Wang Ping had been persuaded many times, but Ma Jian did not accept it.

    After Zhang He arrived, he surrounded the mountain, cut off the water source of the Ma Tan army on the mountain, and attacked in a big way, breaking the Ma Tan army, and the soldiers were scattered, and the army could not be formed. Wang Ping ordered his army to beat the drum and defend itself, Zhang He suspected that there was an ambush and did not dare to advance, Wang Ping had time to clean up the remnants of the army, and led the defeated army to retreat.

    After Ma Tan lost the street pavilion, Zhuge Liang lost an important stronghold, and he had no basis for advancing and retreating, and could no longer fight, so more than 1,000 households in Qianxi County withdrew to Hanzhong. Later, Ma Jian and his generals Li Sheng, Zhang Xiu and others were executed, and Huang Xian was captured.

  24. Anonymous users2024-01-23

    If you listen to him, if you don't get the words on the mountain, you can attack when you advance, you can defend when you retreat, and the morale of the army will not be weakened. Even if you fail, you don't necessarily have to lose the street kiosk. Zhuge Liang is the most careful, and he will not take risks in everything.

    What's more, with Wang Ping's people stationed next to him as a backing, the street pavilion is generally fine.

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